remember in phoenix we had the haboob. >> that's right, the big stand -- the big sandstorm. >> you're right. >> let's go to the map. we made you a map. tony and i didn't make the map. forbes did. >> no, actually our intern mike. >> hey, i'm not far off. >> you're not. >> the cities you see here are considered the safest places in the country for weather-related disasters. number one honolulu which kind of surprised me really. it's considered very safe. not a lot of extreme weather there. very occasionally they get hit by hurricanes but they're generally protected by ocean currents and the winds out there are favorable. so they don't see a lot of extreme weather. sarah mentioned arizona. >> let me say just one thing about honolulu. they are at a slight risk for tsunamis but a very slight risk because they're way out there. >> they got hit by a pretty good hurricane back in '95. honolulu number one. then sarah mentioned arizona but you can see here the pacific northwest and new mexico, santa fe on the list. and yakama. >> is santa fe protected by the mountains? >> here's the combination